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Color checker plug in?

Postby NN635412303032341950UL » Thu Nov 29, 2018 6:02 pm

Does it works now or do they have to wait for updates from X-rite?
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Re: Color checker plug in?

Postby DAndison » Thu Nov 29, 2018 6:59 pm

This I want to know as well. So the new plugin system will allow us to use color checker passport?!?
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Re: Color checker plug in?

Postby Paul_Steunebrink » Thu Nov 29, 2018 7:44 pm

DAndison wrote:This I want to know as well. So the new plugin system will allow us to use color checker passport?!?

What or who gave you that impression?
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Re: Color checker plug in?

Postby DAndison » Thu Nov 29, 2018 7:50 pm

Paul_Steunebrink wrote:
DAndison wrote:This I want to know as well. So the new plugin system will allow us to use color checker passport?!?

What or who gave you that impression?


Feeling a little brusk are we?

Title of thread "Color Checker Plugin"

"Does it works now or do they have to wait for updates from X-rite?"

I asked a question followed by ?!? meaning I wasn't sure if that's what they were referring to!
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Re: Color checker plug in?

Postby Paul_Steunebrink » Thu Nov 29, 2018 7:58 pm

Okay, it was een open question. I get it.
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Re: Color checker plug in?

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Re: Color checker plug in?

Postby DAndison » Thu Nov 29, 2018 8:37 pm

SFA wrote:Does this Phase web site page help?

https://www.phaseone.com/en/Capture-One/Plug-ins.aspx


Interesting stuff, thanks
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Re: Color checker plug in?

Postby NN635412303032341950UL » Thu Nov 29, 2018 10:26 pm

I guess I should request X-rite plug in
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Re: Color checker plug in?

Postby NN161694UL » Fri Nov 30, 2018 1:13 am

Yes, that would be nice!
I don`t get precise results(e.g. art reproductions) with the camera profile they have for the Sony a7r III.
Unfortunately they don´t offer a profile like they have for their own cameras: "Flash - Flat Art Reproduction", which would also be good for other color sensitive studio shots.
But that plug in would have to work a lot better than in Lightroom, because those results are way of.
Does anybody have good solution? Or a good flash color reproduction profile for the Sony?
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Re: Color checker plug in?

Postby deejjjaaaa » Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:51 am

NN161694UL wrote:Does anybody have good solution?


good solution existed for years... it is called dcamprof

http://www.ludd.ltu.se/~torger/dcamprof.html
https://www.ludd.ltu.se/~torger/photogr ... iling.html

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http://www.lumariver.com/lrpd-manual/ (paid, UI based)

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megathread = https://forum.luminous-landscape.com/in ... c=100015.0
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Re: Color checker plug in?

Postby NN635412303032341950UL » Fri Nov 30, 2018 8:19 am

deejjjaaaa wrote:
NN161694UL wrote:Does anybody have good solution?


good solution existed for years... it is called dcamprof

http://www.ludd.ltu.se/~torger/dcamprof.html
https://www.ludd.ltu.se/~torger/photogr ... iling.html

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http://www.lumariver.com/lrpd-manual/ (paid, UI based)

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megathread = https://forum.luminous-landscape.com/in ... c=100015.0


Why do we have to pay for it since we already have a free software directly from X-rite??? If any of those support X Rite Gretag Macbeth Digital Color Checker SG 8.5 x 11, then I would understand.
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Re: Color checker plug in?

Postby deejjjaaaa » Fri Nov 30, 2018 12:25 pm

NN635412303032341950UL wrote:
deejjjaaaa wrote:
NN161694UL wrote:Does anybody have good solution?


good solution existed for years... it is called dcamprof

http://www.ludd.ltu.se/~torger/dcamprof.html
https://www.ludd.ltu.se/~torger/photogr ... iling.html

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http://www.lumariver.com/lrpd-manual/ (paid, UI based)

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megathread = https://forum.luminous-landscape.com/in ... c=100015.0


Why do we have to pay for it since we already have a free software directly from X-rite??? If any of those support X Rite Gretag Macbeth Digital Color Checker SG 8.5 x 11, then I would understand.


apparently you did not bother to read before posting :-) ... no big deal let me summarize for you

1) dcptool is free

2) there is a paid UI version too for people who have a little less brain to master a simple command line tool

3) dcptool is way better then free software from x-rite if you actually bother to compare functionality

4) dcptool supports any targets including synthetic (for example when you have spectral curves for CFA+lens,etc)
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Re: Color checker plug in?

Postby NN161694UL » Mon Dec 03, 2018 2:52 pm

deejjjaaaa wrote:
NN161694UL wrote:Does anybody have good solution?


good solution existed for years... it is called dcamprof

http://www.ludd.ltu.se/~torger/dcamprof.html
https://www.ludd.ltu.se/~torger/photogr ... iling.html

+

http://www.lumariver.com/lrpd-manual/ (paid, UI based)

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megathread = https://forum.luminous-landscape.com/in ... c=100015.0



Cool, thank you! I didn't know that software and I´ll look into it.
Are there some Artikels/Videos where they test the lumariver Repro Edition? (I need it for art repros)
Is there some serious test of the software where the word "feel" doesn't occur as much?
Where they compare the results to other solutions with ∆E values.
Many years ago I invested quite a bit of money into the xrite publish edition with the i1 for all kind of uses (scanner, print RGB and CMYK, beamer, camera) and the color checker SG.
Making special Camera Profiles with that system was quite ok.
But already the next MacOS update one year later was not supported anymore and xrite asked for another $600 for the software update. This policy made xrite for me a "never again" company. I didn't´t want to throw more money down that drain, so I had $2000 useless garbage lying around, still have :(
Last year I became weak in search for a practical solution again and bought the color checker passport.
But that system with Lightroom doesn't really come close to a precise color reproduction.
Serious color reproduction is such a nightmare.
Why doesn't phase one come out with a professional target like the color checker SG (more color patches, but with a lower price, so that the user group becomes much larger ;) and maybe the lower end passport, and implement a precise and easy to use calibration system into c1.
That would be perfect!
That´s a big market and could free us from those xrite politics. And LR with xrite dng solution will be seen as bad as it is.
c1 should concentrate more on having the precisest, fastest and user friendly raw converter again (add Sony pixel shift support ;), instead of adding things most people do in Photoshop anyway.
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Re: Color checker plug in?

Postby deejjjaaaa » Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:47 pm

NN161694UL wrote:Why doesn't phase one come out with a professional target like the color checker SG (more color patches, but with a lower price


because the proper target with patches made from proper different pigments will not be cheap _AND_ any cheap target with just more patches w/o actual variety of different pigments resulting in sufficiently different reflectance spectra is useless vs already existing (even not ideal, SG is semigloss - hence difficult for an average Joe and even non average Joe to shoot) products from X-Rite

DO READ THE LINKS I posted - then you shall have less questions
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Re: Color checker plug in?

Postby deejjjaaaa » Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:50 pm

NN161694UL wrote:Serious color reproduction is such a nightmare.

nobody promised otherwise... as you have to invest into lights with good spectrum and spectrophotometers too, not just the target... or get setup that allows to measure SSF directly ( DIY = https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/61332698 )
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