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Catalog Import curiosity

Postby doobs » Sun Jul 07, 2019 7:03 pm

Fairly new C1 user here coming from LightRoom.

I'm going at acclimation to C1 from two directions. All my images are stored on a Synology NAS box on my home network.

On my laptop, which is connected only via wifi, I created an overall session, but am not importing any images into it as I already have a well defined folder/file naming convention. This allows me to navigate to any of the folders and processes any file that want. It works well on this laptop as it's fast and efficient.

On my desktop machine, which is connected via Ethernet, I'm creating a catalog in C1 of all the image in my portfolio. The list looks like this:

jpg - 18,448
NEF - 17,801
ORF - 1,109
TIF - 6

For total of 50,878 image files. The issue is, C1 is only seeing 49,752 of them upon catalog import.

That's some 1,126 images that aren't getting cataloged. This has me confused. Is there a limit to how many folders that C1 will recurse in it's search? If not, why did it not pick these up?

How do I identify the 1,126 images that didn't get imported?

Thanks

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Re: Catalog Import curiosity

Postby OddS » Sun Jul 07, 2019 8:18 pm

doobs wrote:...The list looks like this:
jpg - 18,448
NEF - 17,801
ORF - 1,109
TIF - 6

For total of 50,878 image files. The issue is, C1 is only seeing 49,752 of them upon catalog import.


On my calculator 18,448 + 17,801 + 1,109 + 6 = 37,364
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Re: Catalog Import curiosity

Postby doobs » Sun Jul 07, 2019 8:30 pm

OddS wrote:
doobs wrote:...The list looks like this:
jpg - 18,448
NEF - 17,801
ORF - 1,109
TIF - 6

For total of 50,878 image files. The issue is, C1 is only seeing 49,752 of them upon catalog import.


On my calculator 18,448 + 17,801 + 1,109 + 6 = 37,364


OOPS
RAF - 13,514

Still 50878 files existing with 49752 found....
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Re: Catalog Import curiosity

Postby SFA » Sun Jul 07, 2019 9:05 pm

According to the tutorial video

https://learn.captureone.com/tutorials/ ... m-catalog/

If the import identifies any incompatible files it would advise the numbers of them at the end of the process.

Did you see anything that suggested there might be some problems that could relate to some of the unfound files?
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Re: Catalog Import curiosity

Postby IanL » Mon Jul 08, 2019 6:22 pm

One other possible source of the discrepancy is LR's virtual copies. C1 does not import those and I forget now how they are reported - or if they are reported.

To get my LR catalog imported clean and neat I used LR to create a copy of my LR catalog that did not include any virtual copies or files of a type that C1 does not support (various moves and some dng file). Once that was done my import into my C1 catalogue was smooth and the numbers all matched up.

You might this thread from someone else asking about importing from LR helpful: viewtopic.php?f=52&t=27207#p130622
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Re: Catalog Import curiosity

Postby doobs » Wed Jul 10, 2019 12:10 am

SFA wrote:According to the tutorial video

https://learn.captureone.com/tutorials/ ... m-catalog/

If the import identifies any incompatible files it would advise the numbers of them at the end of the process.

Did you see anything that suggested there might be some problems that could relate to some of the unfound files?


There were no indications of anything amiss. And I don't do virtual copies in LightRoom.

Just need to try and figure out which files weren't included and why. There don't seem to be any ways of getting catalog statistics from C1.
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Re: Catalog Import curiosity

Postby doobs » Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:53 pm

Is there a way to get a summary of the files in a C1 Catalog?
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Re: Catalog Import curiosity

Postby doobs » Fri Aug 23, 2019 6:57 pm

Had to step away from this for a bit, but I figured it out.

I have 1086 NEF files taken with a Nikon CoolPix 5400 camera. Capture One ignores those completely. That accounts for the difference. H'mmm.

Will file a support request.

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Re: Catalog Import curiosity

Postby doobs » Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:34 pm

LOL.

Official response: "too bad, so sad"....

Guess I'm not surprised.

Technically I love Phase One products.

Support wise, well not so much.
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Re: Catalog Import curiosity

Postby OddS » Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:37 pm

doobs wrote:I have 1086 NEF files taken with a Nikon CoolPix 5400 camera. Capture One ignores those completely.


Hmm, I don't see Nikon CoolPix 5400 in the list of supported cameras: https://www.captureone.com/en/features/ ... ed-cameras
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Re: Catalog Import curiosity

Postby doobs » Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:45 pm

The solution was to convert the NEF's to DNG's with Adobe's free converter.
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Re: Catalog Import curiosity

Postby NNN637072086990741804 » Sun Oct 27, 2019 10:10 pm

I had the same problem. I believe one of the reasons for the incompatible files message may be due to Lightroom indicating that the meta data needs to be updated (small down arrow in upper right of image thumbnail). All the images requiring a meta data update did not import.
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Re: Catalog Import curiosity

Postby NNN637072086990741804 » Sun Oct 27, 2019 10:10 pm

I had the same problem. I believe one of the reasons for the incompatible files message may be due to Lightroom indicating that the meta data needs to be updated (small down arrow in upper right of image thumbnail). All the images requiring a meta data update did not import.

Also - HEIC files will not import.
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Re: Catalog Import curiosity

Postby Supernaut » Mon Oct 28, 2019 3:08 pm

Hi,

I extend this issue.

I have lots of old RAW-files from the good old Nikon Coolpix 5000 and cannot get them imported in C1 12. This camera is not supported by C1.

I tried various ways (converting to DNG, editing EXIF-Data to hide camera-model etc.) but nothing worked. I don't want to import them converted to TIF-files.

The original NEF-Files are fully ignored by C1, any manipulated NEF-file is ignored, too.

The DNG-files are recognized (number of files in folder is displayed in import-dialogue), but there is no preview of the files. Importing files leads to an error "System.NillReferenceException and a detailed message for each failed import-file (sorry for the German language):

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Der Objektverweis wurde nicht auf eine Objektinstanz festgelegt.
   bei P1.C1.Core.Import.ImportProcess.CopyImageSettingsAndCreateFirstVariant(IImage argDestinationImage, IImportSettings argSettings, Lazy`1 argSourceImageIsPackage, String argSourceImagePath, IFileSystem argFileSystem, UInt32 argFileClassification, IImportStyleSetter argStyleSetter)
   bei P1.C1.Core.Import.ImportProcess.CopyImage(String sourceImagePath, String destDir, String destImageName, ICaptureOneDocument document, IImportSettings settings, UInt32 fileClassification, DateTime importDate, EIPHandling eipPacking, Boolean backupOnly, Boolean dontCopyJustReferenceFile, String sidecarDirectory, IImportStyleSetter argStyleSetter, IFileSystem argFileSystem, IImportWarningsHandler argWarningsHandler, Boolean checkIfImageAlreadyCreated)
   bei P1.C1.Core.Import.ImportProcess.ImportImage(ImportArgs args, Boolean importToCatalog, String backupRootPath, Boolean alreadyCheckedIfImageReferencedByCatalog, String argSourceFilePath, String destName, String destSubPath, ICaptureOneDocument document, IFileSystem argIFileSystem, DateTime importTime, Dictionary`2 sourceDirToSidecarPath)


Is there a workaround? Can anybody help? May editing the EXIF-values help to make C1 accepting the files?

If this is not the case, I ask for adding the NIKON Coolpix 5000 to the camera-list of supported cameras. Yes, this camera is "dead" for years, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who has files from this camera in his archive.

All RAWs from my other cameras (D70 and later) work really fine.

Kind regards.
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