C1 for iPad pro?

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Re: C1 for iPad pro?

Postby NN635412303032341950UL » Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:05 pm

Today, I saw someone using iPad Pro with A7iii by connecting USB-C cable. He was using Adobe LR CC. So far, you can import RAW files to iPad Pro and then edit them. Tethering is not supported of course. Yet, I see the industry is changing slowly. From Facebook Sony page, I see a lot of people wants Phase One to make a standalone C1P on iPad Pro. I wonder why not?
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Re: C1 for iPad pro?

Postby David532 » Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:22 am

Why? Many of us don't have or want an ithing and would rather phase focused their efforts on their core profucts.
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Re: C1 for iPad pro?

Postby SFA » Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:36 am

David532 wrote:Why? Many of us don't have or want an ithing and would rather phase focused their efforts on their core profucts.


Exactly.

That said if Apple make it possible to port the code easily and the product can be offered alongside "traditional" C1 for those that want it - maybe an Express functionality based version? - if that would prove economically viable via some sort of economic model that was not penalising the non-ithing users (especially Windows users) then if Phase choose to make the product it would be fine by me.

I'm guessing that shuffling IQ4 150MP files around on a cloud based interface might be a bit of a challenge until 5G is ubiquitously available and large viewing screens would still need to be driven by the editing device ... but maybe that will arrive just as soon as people seem to think it will.

It could be fun.

The question is whether those proclaiming they will only play with the latest greatest toys will indeed stay with a product that makes use of them, as promised. The whether those who are not interested decide to walk away if their needs are are no longer supported by new developments.

Only time will tell how it works out.


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Re: C1 for iPad pro?

Postby PSS » Thu Nov 08, 2018 6:12 am

SFA wrote:
David532 wrote:Why? Many of us don't have or want an ithing and would rather phase focused their efforts on their core profucts.


Exactly.

That said if Apple make it possible to port the code easily and the product can be offered alongside "traditional" C1 for those that want it - maybe an Express functionality based version? - if that would prove economically viable via some sort of economic model that was not penalising the non-ithing users (especially Windows users) then if Phase choose to make the product it would be fine by me.

I'm guessing that shuffling IQ4 150MP files around on a cloud based interface might be a bit of a challenge until 5G is ubiquitously available and large viewing screens would still need to be driven by the editing device ... but maybe that will arrive just as soon as people seem to think it will.

It could be fun.

The question is whether those proclaiming they will only play with the latest greatest toys will indeed stay with a product that makes use of them, as promised. The whether those who are not interested decide to walk away if their needs are are no longer supported by new developments.

Only time will tell how it works out.


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why a cloud based interface? LR CC is not cloud based....the files are seamlessly moved to and from the cloud...mostly when on wifi....
i am pretty sure that the vast majority of C1 users do not use phase backs....not that raw files from most high end canon, sony, nikon and (Yeah) fuji are so much smaller anyway....
regardless....the new ipad pro has benchmarks comparable to a 2018 macbook pro...and with iOs running extremely efficient and having an even smaller footprint then mac Os.....even just bringing a full version of C1 to the ipad would probably provide better performance then what most of us are having on laptops right now....
obviously the C1 interface right now would be far from ideal for a touch screen but it really is a little long in the tooth for desktop....again, as much i prefer C1 raw conversion, LR CC (not classic) shows what a modern interface can accomplish.....and how the experience can be seamless on desktop and iOS....
i guess the question for phase (or for us users) is how much easier or convenient is it to shoot to ipad compared to laptop...
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Re: C1 for iPad pro?

Postby SFA » Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:17 am

PSS wrote:
SFA wrote:
Exactly.

That said if Apple make it possible to port the code easily and the product can be offered alongside "traditional" C1 for those that want it - maybe an Express functionality based version? - if that would prove economically viable via some sort of economic model that was not penalising the non-ithing users (especially Windows users) then if Phase choose to make the product it would be fine by me.

I'm guessing that shuffling IQ4 150MP files around on a cloud based interface might be a bit of a challenge until 5G is ubiquitously available and large viewing screens would still need to be driven by the editing device ... but maybe that will arrive just as soon as people seem to think it will.

It could be fun.

The question is whether those proclaiming they will only play with the latest greatest toys will indeed stay with a product that makes use of them, as promised. The whether those who are not interested decide to walk away if their needs are are no longer supported by new developments.

Only time will tell how it works out.


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why a cloud based interface? LR CC is not cloud based....the files are seamlessly moved to and from the cloud...mostly when on wifi....
i am pretty sure that the vast majority of C1 users do not use phase backs....not that raw files from most high end canon, sony, nikon and (Yeah) fuji are so much smaller anyway....
regardless....the new ipad pro has benchmarks comparable to a 2018 macbook pro...and with iOs running extremely efficient and having an even smaller footprint then mac Os.....even just bringing a full version of C1 to the ipad would probably provide better performance then what most of us are having on laptops right now....
obviously the C1 interface right now would be far from ideal for a touch screen but it really is a little long in the tooth for desktop....again, as much i prefer C1 raw conversion, LR CC (not classic) shows what a modern interface can accomplish.....and how the experience can be seamless on desktop and iOS....
i guess the question for phase (or for us users) is how much easier or convenient is it to shoot to ipad compared to laptop...


My point was about the file transfer aspect of internet usage rather than where the computation takes place - but then both may be affected in some way I guess.

You got my second point about file sizes. I mention the Phase files as a marker since by the time any development might take place file sizes for many new cameras might well be approaching the same numbers - as you recognised. And of course Phase, as a camera manufacturer, primarily need to provide software to support their own products - which by that time may well have even larger files to store and manipulate.

Maybe two product lines would required for RAW conversion? Will the camera market still be big enough to justify that given that most people taking photos seems to be extremely satisfied with the output of smartphones for 99% or more of their photographic activity?

Maybe the logical way forward for Apple would be to persuade everyone that the iPad can take the photos as well - perhaps a 25Mp camera version for Pro photographers so they don't have to mess around carrying camera bodies and lenses and all of that stuff for most of their shoots. For those that need more Apple could introduce the iCamera - a device that uses the iPad as its storage and processing base and caters for specialised lenses to be deployed when needed.

Maybe it will be bast to wait to see how LR CC performs when it arrives in 2019. And for the widespread availability of 5G - unless Apple also come up with an extended storage option that is affordable and compact so that it reinforces the benefits of the form factor.

The screen format does have some advantages, especially for those who have Instagram as a requirement for image publishing and sharing.

It will be interesting to see how thing develop but speaking personally I would not be tempted. In the same way I'm not really tempted to use a Surface. For one thing my eyes, being part of the user interface, continue to favour a larger screen.


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Re: C1 for iPad pro?

Postby JasonP » Fri Nov 09, 2018 4:48 pm

Would love to see the Application available on IOS. Its been asked a few time before and PhaseOne dont seem either interested or transparent if on roadmap.

Previous advice was to log a support request formally, this way its logged and possibly notice will be taken.

ben_US wrote:Please send us a feature request via the link in my profile so we can log the request formally.
http://support.phaseone.com/


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Re: C1 for iPad pro?

Postby rollbahn » Sat Nov 17, 2018 4:05 am

Agreed - this is a super obvious next step for Capture One to make. The next wave of people coming through are growing up with mobile and the C1 needs to start now as it takes years to build up a solid app.

I love C1 on the desktop but I am very tempted by LIghtroom every-time I see the full cloud syncing of files and edits etc between iOS and desktop that make it easy to have your files anywhere. Capture Pilot is like something out of the 90's and is pretty much a waste of time.

Hopefully C1 for mobile is in the works - fingers crossed.
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Re: C1 for iPad pro?

Postby kavehv » Sat Dec 22, 2018 5:45 pm

I too would love to see better iOS/Android on-the-go support. Even being able to capture your RAWs off the camera and do some rudimentary processing or have some workflow to get them into Capture One would be wonderful.

It would also be a good foot-in-the-door for folks to work primarily off these devices.
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