White Balance problem on C1-PS-C1 workflow

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White Balance problem on C1-PS-C1 workflow

Postby efradera » Mon Sep 02, 2019 10:01 am

Hello everyone,

I'm a new user of Capture One 12 (Mac version) and I come from LR. I have a problem with white balance on C1

My workflow is:

1-Basic settings in C1 to leave the photo neutral
2-Export to Photoshop for skin retouching and Dodge & Burn
3-Save and return to C1 for color grading and finish


Well, the problem is on 3rd step when I want to change the white balance in the tiff generated by Photoshop. Look at the following image, it's what happens if I raise the white balance in the same proportion on the RAW and on the tiff generated by Photoshop.

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The photo does not get warmer, it turns red. On Lightroom was not happening.

These are the settings when exporting from C1 to PS and when saving in PS to C1.


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I've tried to change values ​​but the same thing happens. I know that the white balance should be adjusted only at the beginning before editing in Photoshop, but sometimes I want to make the picture warmer in the last steps and I don't like the photo to get turn red. I also know that it can be corrected with curves or color balance, but I think something strange happens anyway.

This is the EXIF of the tiff:

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Thanks for everything!
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Re: White Balance problem on C1-PS-C1 workflow

Postby C-M-B » Mon Sep 02, 2019 4:43 pm

A TIF is not a RAW file and does not offer the same flexibility and leeway in terms of adjustments.

You can adjust white balance somewhat with a TIFF, but it's very limited compared to a RAW file and behaves very differently as well.

White balance should always be set prior to anything else.

I suggest you change your workflow and you first make all possible adjustments to the image in Capture One (you can also use dodge/burn with brightness/exposure/contrast/luma range in layers) and only then do you export the images to Photoshop for final retouching and only small minor adjustments with regards to color.


Capture One is a RAW editor and not a TIFF or JPEG editor.
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Re: White Balance problem on C1-PS-C1 workflow

Postby efradera » Mon Sep 02, 2019 5:08 pm

C-M-B wrote:A TIF is not a RAW file and does not offer the same flexibility and leeway in terms of adjustments.

You can adjust white balance somewhat with a TIFF, but it's very limited compared to a RAW file and behaves very differently as well.

White balance should always be set prior to anything else.

I suggest you change your workflow and you first make all possible adjustments to the image in Capture One (you can also use dodge/burn with brightness/exposure/contrast/luma range in layers) and only then do you export the images to Photoshop for final retouching and only small minor adjustments with regards to color.


Capture One is a RAW editor and not a TIFF or JPEG editor.



Thank you so much for your advice. When I work on the tiff in Lightroom I see that there's not as much flexibility as in the raw but the white balance acts well in terms of cold-hot/blue-yellow color. Photos doesn't turns red when I increase WB. That's why I think C1 does not interpret well the tiff that Photoshop generates
Anyway maybe I should change my workflow as you said, but I don't know if it is convenient to retouch skin after making aggressive adjustments with the color, curves, levels etc...
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Re: White Balance problem on C1-PS-C1 workflow

Postby C-M-B » Mon Sep 02, 2019 5:54 pm

It's actually more convenient because you won't run into any nasty surprises after color-grading which would force you to open and edit the files in Photoshop again.

Lightroom may have a better engine to deal with TIFF and JPEG files but for RAWs I prefer Capture One.
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