Time and Date setting in export

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Time and Date setting in export

Postby NN635395405383606250UL » Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:22 am

Hi,

I am working on some old raw files from 2012 in Capture one 12 right now. Upon export to jpg, I realized that the original creation date is not exported as metadata. Instead the time of export is set as the creation date. I then have to manually change the date (I move the photos into Apple's photo app)

What am I doing wrong? How can I make sure that the actual date when I took the picture remains the creation date for Apple's photo app to correctly identify the photo as taken in 2012?
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Re: Time and Date setting in export

Postby tenmangu81 » Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:39 pm

Did you check that "camera metadata" and/or "all other metadata" are cross-checked in the Process Recipe tool (metadata tab) ?
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Re: Time and Date setting in export

Postby NN635395405383606250UL » Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:12 pm

Hi Robert,

Thank you; the boxes are all checked. All metadata are exported - but the capture date is changed to the export date. Any other ideas?
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Re: Time and Date setting in export

Postby Ian3 » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:25 pm

If I export an image from C1, say as a JPG file, then look at the metadata in C1, it correctly shows the date as the date and time of capture. But in Finder, the Get Info feature reflects the date and time of creation of the JPG. If I add the JPG to the Photos app, though, right clicking it and choosing Get Info does correctly show the capture date and time, not the export date and time. So that is pretty much as you might hope it would be: Capture One and Photos show the capture date, while Finder shows the file creation date.

In the metadata tool of Capture One, then, which date and time is shown at Date in the Basic section of the tool?

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Re: Time and Date setting in export

Postby NN635395405383606250UL » Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:02 pm

Hi Ian,

Thanks for your message. C1 has the right date and metadata export is checked. Finder get info shows the wrong dates, as you mention. Photos unfortunately shows the wrong dates as well, not like you describe.
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Re: Time and Date setting in export

Postby Ian3 » Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:18 pm

I wonder whether it depends on the make and model of camera. Perhaps they don't all provide the same information.

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Re: Time and Date setting in export

Postby FredK » Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:26 pm

You might try opening your exported image in Preview. Then do Get Info and look at the EXIF data. It should show the original capture date and time, not the file creation time. If you import the photo into Photos and do Get Info, you should also see the capture date. Get Info in the Finder reports the file creation date, not the capture date. At least that's how it works on my system. COPro 12.1.
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Re: Time and Date setting in export

Postby NN635395405383606250UL » Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:06 pm

It is not how it works for me. So weird. I have the correct metadata in capture one. I have the export setting set to include everything (I tried exporting with all boxes checked, just to be sure). The file I get has all the metadata BUT the original capture date.....

Is there any other setting? So strange.
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Re: Time and Date setting in export

Postby NN635395405383606250UL » Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:12 pm

Also, I don't think it is related to the camera. I am shooting with an fuji xt 3
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Re: Time and Date setting in export

Postby Nature Isme » Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:51 pm

As was suggested earlier, open the image in Preview or another app that's able to read EXIF data. I just verified with images using 12.1 that all the EXIF C1 shows (that I chose to export) is embedded in the file as expected.

What I think you're referring to is a Finder issue. As far as the Finder is concerned, the exported image's creation date (which is different from the capture date) is when the exported image was created.

When I open an exported JPEG in Preview, EXIFapp, ImageEXIFeditor, etc., the correct shoot date/time and other data I specified is definitely present.
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Re: Time and Date setting in export

Postby SFA » Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:07 am

Exporting a jpg with Camera metadata included using V12 on WIndows 7 I can open the File "Properties" and look at the details tab in in the "Origins" section I can see "Date Taken". Wich is the date I took the shot.

Using a Viewer the Date/Time taken can be seen under the Camera EXIF information section.

Windows Explorer will show the Date the image was taken according the Camera Exif shot date and time IF the Camera Exit data has been included for output.

If it has not been included (in my test examples no metadata was included in the output processing) Windows explorer will use the jpg file creation date and time.

I assume that Mac's do something very similar.


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Re: Time and Date setting in export

Postby Nature Isme » Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:28 am

No, the Mac's Finder (sort of equivalent of Windows Explorer) doesn't show as much EXIF data as Explorer does, which I think is what's causing the OP's problem. That's why a couple of us suggested opening the file in Preview, which shows a bit more embedded EXIF than Finder does. I don't know of a way to get the Finder's "Get Info" box to show all of the embedded EXIF data.

Unfortunately (and very confusing to some), the Finder's creation and modification dates reflect when the file was worked on and not the embedded EXIF. Worse, Apple changed how it calculates the dates a couple of OS versions ago.
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Re: Time and Date setting in export

Postby NN635395405383606250UL » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:34 am

Dear All, thank you for you help.

It is not a finder issue unfortunately. This is what I do:

This is the raw file in capture one. See the creation date correctly shown in the metadata window (14/06/2012):

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I am exporting the image with all metadata boxes checked:

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Finder shows the wrong dates (as many of you noted:

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However, preview shows the wrong dates as well:

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And finally (my issue), Apple photos shows the wrong dates (and consequently screws up photo sorting:

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Funnily enough, I am seeing this issue on my MacBook (which I use when traveling) but not on my iMac at home - yet, I use the same settings on both machines (or so I'd like to think at least)

Any ideas?
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Re: Time and Date setting in export

Postby NN635395405383606250UL » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:31 am

I fixed it. But the solution is super weird. I changed my Macbook's preference settings to 24 hour clock:

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Now imports show up with the right time upon import in Apple's Photos.
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Re: Time and Date setting in export

Postby Ian3 » Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:24 am

How weird! But pleased to know you were able to solve it.

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