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Colour shift while Importing

PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:39 am
by NN636986175608413228UL
While Importing from Photo Mechanic there is a considerable colour shift in the images. But when these images are then exported, it goes back to the original colours. I feel it's just a preview problem with CO. Here is a screenshot showing the same.

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Re: Colour shift while Importing

PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:44 am
by NNN636906288793825584
I also have this problem. I previously had this issue in fujifilms silkypix raw converter and to settings > display settings > uncheck enable display color management and that fixed it. Can't find such an option in capture one though.

Re: Colour shift while Importing

PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 8:03 am
by NN636986175608413228UL
This problem seems to happen in Lightroom and Photoshop too, with the same files..... I'm guessing the problem is with the file itself. It was shot on Acros film simulation in an Fujifilm Xpro2.

Re: Colour shift while Importing

PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:07 am
by Ian3
Isn’t this a question of whether the film simulation is being applied? What does it say under Curve in Base Characteristics on the Colour tool tab?

Ian

Re: Colour shift while Importing

PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:21 am
by NN636986175608413228UL
Ian3 wrote:Isn’t this a question of whether the film simulation is being applied? What does it say under Curve in Base Characteristics on the Colour tool tab?

Ian

Under base characteristics it says, ICC Profile: From File and Curve: Auto

Re: Colour shift while Importing

PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:49 pm
by NNN636906288793825584
I don't think this has anything to do with the files themselves or the film simulation mode, especially if you're shooting in RAW because the film simulations are then somewhat arbitrary. I have two monitors and somehow, if I use the primary monitor, i.e. the one designated as "1" under display settings, the colors are normal. But the instant I drag the image to the other screen it turns orange. The catalog preview images are also orange on the other monitor but not on the primary one. Perhaps it has something to do with having two screens?

Re: Colour shift while Importing

PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:03 am
by Bobtographer
NNN636906288793825584 wrote:I don't think this has anything to do with the files themselves or the film simulation mode, especially if you're shooting in RAW because the film simulations are then somewhat arbitrary.

screenshot shows JPEG files

do you mind uploading an original file so we can take a look?

Re: Colour shift while Importing

PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:11 am
by NN636986175608413228UL
NNN636906288793825584 wrote:I don't think this has anything to do with the files themselves or the film simulation mode, especially if you're shooting in RAW because the film simulations are then somewhat arbitrary. I have two monitors and somehow, if I use the primary monitor, i.e. the one designated as "1" under display settings, the colors are normal. But the instant I drag the image to the other screen it turns orange. The catalog preview images are also orange on the other monitor but not on the primary one. Perhaps it has something to do with having two screens?


But here it's different on the same screen. The Windows preview shows the same file as B&W and when open in Capture One it shows a sepia tint.

Re: Colour shift while Importing

PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:14 am
by NN636986175608413228UL
Bobtographer wrote:
NNN636906288793825584 wrote:I don't think this has anything to do with the files themselves or the film simulation mode, especially if you're shooting in RAW because the film simulations are then somewhat arbitrary.

screenshot shows JPEG files

do you mind uploading an original file so we can take a look?


Here is link to the original file from camera

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1u5bl4 ... H8vh3szliy

Re: Colour shift while Importing

PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:06 pm
by Bobtographer
Ok so my import shows B+W without any toning, you haven't set a style up on import by mistake?

Re: Colour shift while Importing

PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 4:17 pm
by NN636986175608413228UL
Bobtographer wrote:Ok so my import shows B+W without any toning, you haven't set a style up on import by mistake?


No. No style in Import settings. Strangely this colour shift is happening in all photo editing apps, like Capture One, lightroom & Photoshop. But the colors are proper B&W in Image viewing apps.

Re: Colour shift while Importing

PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:07 pm
by SFA
The sample jpg looks OK on my system.

I can shift it towards sepia/brown if I change the WB setting to 6000 rather then the default 5000.

I note the jpg has sRGB colour space embedded as one might expect. Is your monitor running as sRGB or some other default colour space? A long shot but it might be worth checking.

Re: Colour shift while Importing

PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:06 am
by NN636986175608413228UL
SFA wrote:The sample jpg looks OK on my system.

I can shift it towards sepia/brown if I change the WB setting to 6000 rather then the default 5000.

I note the jpg has sRGB colour space embedded as one might expect. Is your monitor running as sRGB or some other default colour space? A long shot but it might be worth checking.


I don't think it's a problem with the monitor. As you can see in the first image, The photo preview window has the correct colour, whilst the same image open in Capture One has a tint. If it were an issue with the monitor, both images would have shown the same colour shift.

Re: Colour shift while Importing

PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:29 am
by SFA
NN636986175608413228UL wrote:
SFA wrote:The sample jpg looks OK on my system.

I can shift it towards sepia/brown if I change the WB setting to 6000 rather then the default 5000.

I note the jpg has sRGB colour space embedded as one might expect. Is your monitor running as sRGB or some other default colour space? A long shot but it might be worth checking.


I don't think it's a problem with the monitor. As you can see in the first image, The photo preview window has the correct colour, whilst the same image open in Capture One has a tint. If it were an issue with the monitor, both images would have shown the same colour shift.


Not necessarily. Your photo editing applications will be colour managed. The viewer maybe not.

There is an additional variable in terms of what maybe happening in Photo Mechanic.

How do things look if you import straight into C1?

Re: Colour shift while Importing

PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 1:04 pm
by NN636986175608413228UL
SFA wrote:
NN636986175608413228UL wrote:
SFA wrote:The sample jpg looks OK on my system.

I can shift it towards sepia/brown if I change the WB setting to 6000 rather then the default 5000.

I note the jpg has sRGB colour space embedded as one might expect. Is your monitor running as sRGB or some other default colour space? A long shot but it might be worth checking.


I don't think it's a problem with the monitor. As you can see in the first image, The photo preview window has the correct colour, whilst the same image open in Capture One has a tint. If it were an issue with the monitor, both images would have shown the same colour shift.


Not necessarily. Your photo editing applications will be colour managed. The viewer maybe not.

There is an additional variable in terms of what maybe happening in Photo Mechanic.

How do things look if you import straight into C1?


Tried importing to C1 directly from the card. Same problem.