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History

PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 9:26 pm
by MikeFromMesa
Is there some adjustment history kept by C1? I was trying to find a way to back up to a previous point in processing but could not find a history list other than the processing history which seems to describe output processing, not adjustment processing.

I know I can "undo" but I was looking for something that would allow me to back up to some previous adjustment setting as you can do in Lightroom. Is there such a thing in C1? And, if so, where? As it is now the only thing I can think to do is add adjustment layers and mark each one with the changes, but even then it requires a series of deletes to back up.

Re: History

PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2019 10:09 pm
by tenmangu81
Unfortunately not, as the general philosophy of the two softwares (Lightroom and Capture One) is quite different.
A workaround would be to make all adjustments through layers (with full masks on), as you think about it. You don't need to delete the layers, you just have to un-crosscheck them.
I have done it sometimes, but I admit it's not an easy workaround. The best thing to do is to forget Lightroom..... :D

Re: History

PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 12:38 am
by SFA
You can "Undo" the previous adjustment and so step back thorugh changes using Undo but not go back to a previous point via some sort of list.

However I never found a list very helpful using other applications since unless you have fully annotated every change you ever make (if the software allows that) you still don't really know which change you wanted IF a single change via copy and paste (for example) may actually apply multiple adjustments within the list.

In my opinion using a "Variant" (or whatever an application might call its alternative version of an image) is a far better approach to efficiently producing alternative versions of images when required.

HTH.


Grant

Re: History

PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 12:51 am
by MikeFromMesa
SFA wrote:However I never found a list very helpful using other applications since unless you have fully annotated every change you ever make


My main experience with this has been with Photoshop and there I found it easy to return to some mid-change point. Since I use luminosity masking a lot in PS I just return to where I created the LM and start from there.

As for LR, I have it as part of the Adobe photography program but I almost never actually use it. I know it contains a history list, but that is because I used to use LR before I discovered better alternatives.

Re: History

PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 12:53 am
by MikeFromMesa
tenmangu81 wrote:A workaround would be to make all adjustments through layers (with full masks on), as you think about it. You don't need to delete the layers, you just have to un-crosscheck them.


I have done this, but it is tiresome since it requires a new layer for every adjustment and each layer requires annotation.

tenmangu81 wrote:The best thing to do is to forget Lightroom..... :D


Yes, but like a bad dream, it keeps coming back to haunt me ...

Re: History

PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 5:16 am
by Eric Nepean
Since each layer can be named, and can turned on and off, it is possible to save a number of interim editting stages as layer, and the layer name can indicate sequence. However this rapidly get messy if you are using several layers for different parts of the image.

A better strategy is to clone the variant at various editting stages. Notes can be left in several ways:
  1. An empty layer can be inserted with the notes as the name of the layer.
  2. Annotations can be used to write the notes on top of the image
  3. Notes can be left in one of the Metadata fields - perhaps Status Instructions

Another strategy is to save the adjustments at some point as a user defined style.

it should be dead easy for the developers to make a faux image adjustment that just has a text field, and can be included in any layer. Even better if the text field can be shown as annotation on top of the image.

Re: History

PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 9:43 pm
by MikeFromMesa
Those are all good ideas, but it would be nice to have a history list. C1 seems fairly complete for a workflow tool but it does not seem hard to create an actual list with changes*.

* Then, of course, there is the general rule that nothing is impossible for the person who does not have to do the work.