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Split Session

Postby NN635433803674335076UL » Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:54 am

Can anyone offer any advice on how to split one session into two separate sessions retaining file adjustments and ratings etc? Many thanks.
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Re: Split Session

Postby SFA » Wed Feb 07, 2018 12:04 pm

How is your session currently structured?

All source image folders inside the "session" defined folder system?

Or "favourite" folders located outside the Session folder set up?

Are the any folders that you consider to be part of the session but that are not to be found in the session folder structure OR the Favourites listing?

Do you have an easy way to identify the images you want to separate from the existing session or will you need to pick them one at a time?


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Re: Split Session

Postby NN635433803674335076UL » Wed Feb 07, 2018 12:13 pm

Thank you Grant, all the files are located within the Capture folder in the Session. Its easy to identify and select the files which I would like to be in a separate session though they have adjustments and star ratings applied.
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Re: Split Session

Postby SFA » Wed Feb 07, 2018 12:19 pm

Subsidiary questions.

Are the images you wish to split out in a single folder or multiple folders?

Mac or Windows?

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Re: Split Session

Postby NN635433803674335076UL » Wed Feb 07, 2018 12:26 pm

Hi Grant, all in the one Capture folder. Mac OS 10.13.3
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Re: Split Session

Postby SFA » Wed Feb 07, 2018 1:23 pm

OK,

If all are in a single folder then I think something along these lines might be viable. (There are many ways to approach this but this may be "least effort". Also with security and maximum recovery potential it you are nervous about it!

Firstly separate the images. I would suggest using the "Move to Selects" option which should put the original images in the selects folder complete with the Edit and cache info in the "Capture One" folders. Try it on one image to see what I mean.

Once you have the split into Selects with the remainder still in the Capture Folder, copy the entire Session folder structure somewhere else and rename the .Cosessiondb file. You should now have to identical sessions with different names.

In the new session, assuming you want to you can delete everything left in the Capture folder and then move the content of the selects folder back to Capture (or some other folder that you create or just leave it where it is - it depends on how you like to see things organised.) Do all of this through Capture One to ensure that the session is managing the changes appropriately. The Edits and cache folders should move with the images if performed through C1. Cache is not too important - the previews and thumbnails can be recreated on demand

Once you are comfortable with the new session go back to the original session and delete the content of the Selects folder (again through C1 not the operating system file management.)

There are other options but I think this would be least effort. You can try it with just a single file as an initial proof of concept.

Plan B might be to export all the files you want to separate as EIP files. (You will remove them from the original session later is required so make them easily identifiable as before.

Then create a new session and import the field previously exported making sure to include existing adjustments.

Much the same concept but may take a tad longer.

There are probably several other options but likely with subtly different interactions for Mac users. I'm on Windows so the details of the options may be a little different and I would prefer to avoid possible confusion so will leave alternatives to othrs to comment about.

HTH.


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Re: Split Session

Postby Ian3 » Wed Feb 07, 2018 2:42 pm

This seems rather longwinded to me!

Call the original session A. Create a new session, B.

Working in Session B, go to the System folder tool on the Library tab, and find the images in the session A folders that you want to transfer. Drag and drop them to the Session folders you want them to move to (Capture, Selects or Output as the case may be). Or to transfer them to the Selects folder of Session B, just select them in the browser and hit Cmd-J. Capture One will see to bringing the adjustments, ratings etc along with them.

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Re: Split Session

Postby NN635433803674335076UL » Wed Feb 07, 2018 4:52 pm

Hi Grant, thats great, thanks for such a detailed response. I imagined there might be a few ways to tackle and am glad I'm not missing an obvious way to do this! Will give this a try when the studio is quiet sometime! Many thanks again, Matthew
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Re: Split Session

Postby SFA » Wed Feb 07, 2018 5:52 pm

Ian3 wrote:This seems rather longwinded to me!

Call the original session A. Create a new session, B.

Working in Session B, go to the System folder tool on the Library tab, and find the images in the session A folders that you want to transfer. Drag and drop them to the Session folders you want them to move to (Capture, Selects or Output as the case may be). Or to transfer them to the Selects folder of Session B, just select them in the browser and hit Cmd-J. Capture One will see to bringing the adjustments, ratings etc along with them.

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My original is possibly long winded Ian, but I am somewhat prejudiced against straight moves rather than copy and delete on the fly. So I go for something close to belt and braces.

But yes, you can save a couple of delete activities with your approach. Does that also update the original source session as one copies? I was not sure that it would.


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Re: Split Session

Postby Ian3 » Wed Feb 07, 2018 6:44 pm

SFA wrote:Does that also update the original source session as one copies? I was not sure that it would.


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Yes it does, at least when you move files to Selects, whether from the same or another drive. For transfers to other folders, then the usual rules apply: if you are on the same drive, and it will move them, but for transfers from one drive to another it will copy them.

I often do this to transfer files from a session on my MacBook to my iMac. I often select the JPGs in my MacBook Output folder and move them to Selects on the iMac, so that they move instead of copying, then move them to Output on the iMac afterwards (selecting by file type).

I definitely agree about belt and braces, but with a suitable backup - Time Machine on Macs - I feel safe enough.

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Re: Split Session

Postby SFA » Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:32 am

Ian,

Thanks, that's interesting.

I'll try to remember to run a quick test on Windows just to make sure there are no "interesting" nuances.

A couple of things that would maybe be a challenge but are perhaps out on a limb.

Masks for layers, especially now with the extended layers functionality in V11, may be due some extra inspection when moving things around. Just in case there are anomalies as yet unfound.

The other thing would be LCC profiles if used. That might be a bit specialised and perhaps not a common factor for concern for most people's work with C1. But it might affect some.

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