Loupedeck for Capture One?

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Loupedeck for Capture One?

Postby NN234774UL » Thu Oct 19, 2017 9:49 pm

Hi all,

Does anyone use the new interesting Loupedeck (https://loupedeck.com) for editing photos with Capture One? How does it work?

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Re: Loupedeck for Capture One?

Postby SFA » Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:03 pm

The developer web site seems to make it very evident that it has been developed for use with Lightroom.

Is it even possible to adapt it to work with any other application?
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Re: Loupedeck for Capture One?

Postby Emile » Fri Oct 20, 2017 12:17 am

The ability to assign keyboard shortcuts to C1's functions kind of makes this tool superfluous. I can see its functionality in Lightroom though, as it lacks (amongst others) the customization features C1 offers.
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Re: Loupedeck for Capture One?

Postby Jim_DK » Fri Oct 20, 2017 9:44 am

Loupe deck is very proprietary for Lightroom. Adapting it as it is for Capture One would be close to impossible AND expect a tight integration. I would imagine a Capture One variant would have to be made to be viable.

Aside if "hardware controllers" are your thing we have implemented a solution using Tangent wave systems. From a solution perspective it offers significant value:

Way more modular in terms of options
Full customization (I think something like 460 properties mapped however you want)
Compatible with other apps (Premier, Da VInci etc)
The ball controllers designed to work with e.g the color balance tool.
High build quality.

There is though a price difference (as is the way with higher end things).
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Re: Loupedeck for Capture One?

Postby mbrakes » Wed Oct 25, 2017 8:24 am

I would suggest people looking for features similar to the Loupedeck or Tangent Wave at a lower price point to look into the Contour Shuttle Pro v2 or the Razer Orbweaver Chroma Gaming Keypad (or any of the variations thereof).

The obvious advantage is lower price, the disadvantage is that you would have to spend time setting up all the shortcuts yourself, so it takes time. But with that comes another advantage: You get to set it up however you like, and with different layouts based on the application you're working in, so it's not strictly for C1 / Lightroom (or DaVinci Resolve in the case of the Tangent, I believe).

Another advantage with the Contour Shuttle and Razer, which is by far the most important, the way I see it, is to reduce hand movement. All keys can more or less fit within reach of your fingers without having to move your hand, which is by far the greatest benefit, the way I see it.

Of course, there's thigs you can't do with these devices that the tangent can do - the grading balls would be hard or maybe even impossible to replicate with the keys and wheel-based input controls of the Shuttle and Razer, but for most other tasks, like culling and linear adjustments, these would really help to speed up the process.

I have been looking into the Razer mentioned above, but initially dismissed it because I found a lot of reviews dissing the Synapse driver/software from Razer - but after some more research it appears there are other software that can be used to substitute the manufacturer-provided one, so I think I may give it a try after all:

USB overdrive:
http://www.usboverdrive.com/USBOverdriv ... ation.html

Steermouse:
http://plentycom.jp/en/steermouse/index.html

I have been using the Contour Shuttle Pro v2 for awhile, and although it is pretty good, I dont particularly like the fact that the second key on the second row from the top has become a bit finicky and often requires a really hard press to register. I've had mine for almost two years now but only used it seriously for the last year or so. I haven't noticed this behaviour until recently so I believe it may be due to wear - in which case the durability is a bit questionable. I have temporarily overcome this by reassigning the functions on this row to the row above, but it is messing with my muscle memory, which I really dislike, as that is half the point (having the motions stick in muscle memory so you don't have to think about it. Relearning too often defeats the purpose.)

If you do a lot of video editing then the ShuttlePro may have an advantage over the Razer as the Shuttle has a scrubbing wheel, which is really high quality as far as I can tell, but as primarily a stills photographer I use the buttons most.

I believe the Razer Chroma may have an advantage over the Shuttle for me as the latter also has an integrated joystick/pad, which MAY be beneficial for navigation without having to jump from keys to the Wacom pen all the time (I prefer to use a Wacom tablet and pen instead of a mouse), which I find annoying. But it remains to be seen if this advantage is real or imaginary, as I haven't had a chance to try the Chroma yet.
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Re: Loupedeck for Capture One?

Postby mbrakes » Fri Oct 27, 2017 10:01 am

Ok, just thought I'd add this link to another forum post I just found while researching more about Contour ShuttlePro v2 settings. This old forum post suggests that the scrubbing wheel can indeed be set up to control most of the linear adjustment settings like exposure etc. by setting the wheel up to work together with modifier keys, should be quite handy:

viewtopic.php?f=40&t=12172
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Re: Loupedeck for Capture One?

Postby Class A » Wed Jan 31, 2018 6:16 am

mbrakes wrote:I have been using the Contour Shuttle Pro v2 for awhile, and although it is pretty good, I dont particularly like the fact that the second key on the second row from the top has become a bit finicky and often requires a really hard press to register.

I have noticed the same phenomenon with some of the keys on my ShuttlePro v2 as well.

I found pressing them really hard and repeatedly makes them responsive again. This works so well that I never bothered opening the device.

BTW, as you, I love the fact that I don't have to move my hand at all for the majority of editing operations. N.B., I assigned the outer (rubberised) dial to controlling the brush size. This works an absolute treat for me.
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Re: Loupedeck for Capture One?

Postby WPNL » Wed Jan 31, 2018 6:27 am

Maybe you'll find this interesting too?
http://phodograf.com/controller-1/
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