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ISO + FW question

PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 8:41 am
by swissmade
Hi folks

I have a P30 Digiback (FW MAin 2.5.2) for my Hasselblad 500 CM and

1. I can't find the ISO 50 setting in the ISO Menu. Is there a reason for that?
2. Where can I find the latest Firmware version and HOW to load it without a fireWire connection?
3- Looking for a P30 manual

Thanks in advance

Daniel

Re: ISO + FW question

PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 8:58 am
by bml

Re: ISO + FW question

PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 10:05 am
by swissmade
Thanks but I saw this before .....

It does not feed my needs, the firmware is not for the P30......... and I thought there is a P30 manual not formthe whole P Series.

Anyway to load the new firmware WITHOUT a firewire connection is also needed because Firewire is NOT coomon anymore, especially on a mac.

Daniel

Re: ISO + FW question

PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 10:26 am
by Ulf
Hi

You do have the latest firmware in the camera back so no firmware update is needed.
The 30mp sensor in the P30 has 100 as base ISO due to its use of microlenses on each pixel so essentially ISO 100 on P30 has the same quality as ISO 50 on a P45.

Re: ISO + FW question

PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:56 pm
by swissmade
Hello Ulf
Ulf wrote:You do have the latest firmware in the camera back so no firmware update is needed.
The 30mp sensor in the P30 has 100 as base ISO due to its use of microlenses on each pixel so essentially ISO 100 on P30 has the same quality as ISO 50 on a P45.


Are you very sure??? I'm not. The P-Series Reference manual say's and show the ISO 50:
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My back shows:
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If you say "The 30mp sensor in the P30 has 100 as base ISO due to its use of microlenses on each pixel so essentially ISO 100 on P30 has the same quality as ISO 50 on a P45" what setting in the menu then is ISO 100? Means there is NO difference in ISO 50 and 100 because you have NOT the choice 50 or 100

Daniel

Re: ISO + FW question

PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 8:07 pm
by Ulf
Hi

The manual is generic for the "P" series.
P20, P25 and P45 has base ISO 50 while P21 and P30 have ISO 100 as base ISO.
Note how the menu shows ISO 400 as top level while you back has ISO 800 for that very reason.

Re: ISO + FW question

PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 11:20 pm
by swissmade
Hi Ulf

Why say's the Data sheet something different???

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Re: ISO + FW question

PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 10:09 am
by Ulf
Not sure where that comes from, it is wrong.

Re: ISO + FW question

PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 10:59 am
by swissmade
Good morning Ulf

It came from your website:

http://downloads.phaseone.com/P-30-Datasheet.pdf

Daniel

Re: ISO + FW question

PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:23 pm
by Ulf
Hmm.. well that has to be fixed :-) (even if it is old....)

Re: ISO + FW question

PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 2:54 pm
by swissmade
Fact (alternatively) is, nobody knows really the tech specs of this P30. The dealer here in switzerland told me something 50-1600 ISO but he knows it not really. This is a Phase One dealer! The datasheet say's 50-800, you say 100-800.......

Sorry in fact this sounds not very serious!

Re: ISO + FW question

PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 9:43 am
by swissmade
Forgot to say:

Firmware updates are not supported when using the Apple Thunderbolt adapter. The update itself will fail, but the back can be recovered by updating the firmware on another computer with a direct firewire connection. For IQ backs we recommend updating via USB or CF card. For all other backs please use a computer with firewire ports.


Nobody tell me that. Also not the Phase One dealers......

Re: ISO + FW question

PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 7:13 am
by Ulf
HI

It is a older product, not easy for a Phase One partner to keep information on a 12 year old product.
I am sure they can tell you the data specs of a current products easily.

However:
P30: ISO 100-800
P30+ ISO 100-1600

If there is anything, then do not hesitate to contact us in the tech support team (Http://support.phaseone.com)
I will leave this thread as it is after all a user to user forum.